Halifax Memories 33
Halifax Memories 33 - Halifax Characters
Halifax People who have made their names in the outside world deserve their praise but not everybody gets the same opportunities in life and here are a few 'real local Halifax characters', most of which shared struggles in life but are remembered just as well.
These are some Halifax characters that have been written about in old Couriers. Do any of our older readers remember any of them or their descriptions?
Perhaps the most remembered would be 'Donald John', 'Lilly Fogg' and 'Welly-bob Jim', but here are a few more you might remember.
You can add your own characters and/or memories at the bottom of this page.
See Memories of Victorian Halifax
Willie 'Slim' Somerville
I used to see Willie
Somerville from time to time. He would be walking down Hunger Hill
wearing a tatty leather jacket, bush saw on one shoulder and garden
shears in the other hand.
He was making his way down to the
Norfolk Café, which is still going, opposite the Shay Hotel, for a
bit of breakfast. His parents were quite wealthy; in fact I
was told on good authority that he owned the first motor bike in
Slim was well known to
the local police. I was a switchboard operator at the local police
station. Slim was from a reasonably well-to-do family and well
educated. He used to ride a motor bike, but an accident left him
"strange" but not so strange – he used a label from an
empty Guinness bottle for a road fund licence on his bike.
he stopped riding he spent some time using the brick kilns at Siddal
From time to time the police would bring him in
and he'd do a couple of days in Armley, where he would be tidied up
(he'd never take his socks off for a bath) and come back to
One time when the magistrate gave him two months he
said he couldn't go, as he was taking the girl on the switchboard to
Rouen. I did say he was strange!
Slim looked a bit frightening
but he was harmless and an entertaining person. I liked Slim.
William and also known as Slim because he was very slim as well as
tall, was well known in the Savile Park and Skircoat Green area, where
he could be seen doing odd jobs such as gardening and clearing snow.
He often carried gardening shears and a small bundle of other
said she'd actually seen him the day before he died, at Heath Avenue,
near Manor Heath. She had left home and when she returned later in
the day Somerville had not moved from where she had seen him earlier.
That night he was found in nearby Heath Street and he died in Halifax
General Hospital. That was on June 6, 1960.
His death was
reported by the Courier the following day, as follows: "The
death occurred last night in Halifax General Hospital of a well-known
Halifax character, William (Billy) Somerville, who for many years had
done jobbing gardening in the Savile Park and Skircoat Green areas.
He was 62 and in recent years had no fixed address.
in Kilmarnock, he came to Halifax when his father, the late Mr Harry
Somerville, became wool buyer for a Halifax firm.
"He was educated
at Heath Grammar School, Halifax, and in the 1914-18 war joined the
Royal Army Service Corps, serving in France as a dispatch rider.
"He was demobilised in 1919 and for a short time worked
as a motor mechanic in Halifax. He then went into the wool trade and
was employed at two Bradford firms as a wool sorter.
he had a long period of illness and when his mother died in 1939 he
took up work as a jobbing gardener and handyman.
afternoon he was found in a collapsed condition in Heath Street, Free
School Lane, and was taken to Halifax General Hospital, where he died
two hours later."
Billy Somerville was buried at Stoney
Royd Cemetery, Halifax, on June 10, 1960 where the service was
conducted by the Ven Eric Treacy, archdeacon and vicar of Halifax,
later to become Bishop of Wake field.
included the famous Halifax sculptor, Jocelyn Horner, and among the
floral tributes was one on behalf of Halifax police in the name of
the chief constable, Gerald Frank Goodman.
At some point
Somerville lived near Albert Park (Sparrow Park), where Margot
Thornbers' father had lived as a boy. In those days, said Margot, he
had a motorbike and rather impressed her father.
children we were a bit scared of him. He wore a fur flying jacket. My
father felt rather sorry for him and gave him tea."
Margot Thornber, of
Rocks Road, Halifax, who remembers seeing him often as a girl.
SEVENTY years ago, on April 9, 1938, Halifax's oldest inhabitant, John Morby, celebrated his hundredth birthday. He was the first centenarian in Halifax borough for many years.
Mr Morby, of Church Terrace, Illingworth, had only retired six years earlier, at the age of 94. Until then he had worked for about 40 years as a roads foreman for Halifax Highways Department. On his retirement he was presented with an armchair. He used to get up at 5.30am, report for duty an hour later and retire for the night at 9pm.
A remarkably fit man for his age, at 99 John was still able to read well but he could not find enough useful things to do to fill his leisure time. He had never been to the cinema but went out almost daily for a walk and even in the cold weather would not wear an overcoat.
His walks were usually concerned with roads and
with the progress of new buildings. If there were any road repairs or
excavations in the vicinity it was not long before Mr Morby arrived
to see what was taking place. And his conversation was, quite simply,
full of stories of roads and road menders. The previous year,
on his 99th birthday, Mr Morby told a Courier reporter: "I still
feel the same as I did 20 years ago, except my knees get a little
stiff when I have been sitting for a time."
oldest resident then had two ambitions. One was to go up in an
aeroplane with pioneer aviator Amy Johnson, whom he greatly admired.
The other was to go down to the bottom of the sea and see what he
described as "illuminated" fish. His remarks
prompted the Yorkshire Aeroplane Club to contact Mr Morby, offering
him a flight in a five-seater airliner from Yeadon. He accepted and
enjoyed the experience.
John Morby was born at North Wootton
near King's Lynn, Norfolk, in the year of Queen Victoria's
coronation. He started work at the age of eight and at 15 he left
home to seek his fortune further afield. Having worked as an
agricultural labourer in Norfolk, at the age of 20 he married a
Norfolk girl, Rachel Lake. She already had a four-year-old daughter
called Georgiana, whom John adopted.
He soon moved to London,
where he was involved in helping construct Kings Cross underground
station. For more than 20 years Morby stayed mostly in south-east
London, working on various construction projects, before moving
north, first to Darlington and Leeds and then, with his second wife,
Mary, to Halifax, settling in Ovenden. He soon found work,
helping to sink the first shaft on the Halifax High Level Railway at
Soon he was working on local roads for
Illingworth Board. His experience in London was of great value. He
was an expert on drainage and the local roads were made more sound
and freer from erosion.
John had at least eight children, of
whom four were still living in 1937, though John said his second wife
had died some 20 years before.
Morby died on October 5, 1938 and
was buried at Illingworth Moor Cemetery two days later.
by David Hanson 2008
John Morby is my great
great great grandfather and I am a descendent of John Morby's first
wife Rachel Lake. Family genealogy is my hobby and I was very pleased
that the Halifax Courier wrote this article. One day I am planning on
visiting Illingworth to find John's grave and would love to hear from
any distant relatives or friends on the Halifax side to find out as
much as I can about him. He was a very interesting character. There
must still be some people around who remember John Morby.
have my own genealogy website where I have traced the Morby line back
to John's father Anthony born 1804. Please see
If anyone thinks they may know anyone who would have known
John or one of his descendents please put them in contact with me. My
email address is on my website.
David P Smith, 18/04/2008
My family was one of
half a dozen Italian families that settled in Halifax at the turn of
the last century. Most of them lived in Lower George Yard near
Mrs Cunliffe wrote that a Mrs D'Agastino played the
barrel organ and was involved in ice-cream making.
she is correct in saying that it was an Italian family that carried
these activities out she was wrong in their name. The name of the
family that brought Italian ice-cream to this wonderful town was, in
fact, the De Luca family.
My great-great grandfather was Luigi
De Luca and his sister was Nancy, although the family know her as
something different. She went on to marry a man with the
surname Pandosi and it was she who played the barrel organ.
she played she always wore traditional Italian ladies' wear, which
did include a black shawl over her head. One of her nieces
went on to marry a member of the Fusco clan and all families were
involved in some way with either ice-cream making or music.
was known to be a happy, polite lady and could also be seen playing
outside Shibden Park.
Nancy Pandozi thanks to Tony Martin
David Glover remembers -
Irene Cunliffe (Nostalgia, March 27) is right in saying that the Italian lady who played the barrel organ in various parts of Halifax some 70 to 80 years ago was Mrs Agostino. Her husband also did the same job.
The 1901 Halifax census gives Giovanni D'agostino, organ grinder, and his wife, Fortunata, both aged 45, and sons, Anthony (14) and Domenico (two), living at 2, Lower George Yard, Woolshops.
Both the parents and the elder son were born in Italy but Domenico had been born in Halifax and at the time they had some Italian-born friends lodging with them.
The family are not shown on the 1891 census so it appears the family arrived in England during the 1890s.
Giovanni, also known as John in Halifax, died early in 1944, aged 85, but what became of his widow Fortunata – or whether she had died earlier – I do not yet know.
Their elder son, Antony, had died in Halifax in 1943 aged 55, and was buried at Stoney Royd. Domenico was also known as Dominick.
Incidentally, there were D'agostinos living in Halifax as early as 1888, who may have been related to Giovanni.
David C. Glover
Bill Clay, in his
reminiscences of childhood in the Woolshops area of Halifax , mentioned "an old lady called Miss England, a retired school
teacher who lived in a sort of shabby gentility.
would have tea in her garden with friends, with a crisp, white
tablecloth and silverware, the whole scene looking quite incongruous
in the surroundings."
That brought a call from
85-year-old Joseph Smith – and it turned out that Miss England was
his great aunt and there followed a fascinating and, at times, tragic
Miss England was really a Smith, one of a rather
large clan of Smiths.
Joseph explained: "I think Miss England
was just a nickname, because of the life she led.
had to be done correctly. If they were having tea in the garden then
they would get out the silverware."
Miss Smith was one of
three sisters and a brother – all Smiths, because none of the girls
married – who lived together at No 8, the Square, between Woolshops
and the Piece Hall. All of them were teachers. In fact, the
brother, Fred, was head of the old outdoor school at Bermerside,
where children with tuberculosis went for schooling in the open
The girls were named Lucy, Emma and Mabel – but for the
life in him Joseph can't remember which one was the prim and proper
one who insisted on crisp tablecloths and silverware.
remembers that Lucy died in 1926 and Mabel was the last of the
siblings to pass on, in 1942. All were buried at Lister Lane
cemetery. The four were uncle and aunts of Joseph's father, Lewis
Smith, and were therefore Joseph's great uncle and aunts.
said, it was a big family. Joseph, born in 1922, was one of eight
brothers and sisters, somewhere in the middle of John, James, Louis,
Florence, Margaret and Hilda. Oh, and Thomas. He was Joseph's
twin and died in 1924, aged just two.
It's a sad story. The family
had had fish pie for lunch – dinner as most people round here would
call it – and a bone became stuck in Thomas's throat. He
was taken to the Royal Halifax Infirmary, where the bone was removed
and something like a tracheotomy was performed. But for some reason
the operation did not work and the young Tho-mas died the following
Joseph's father was a driver for the Halifax brewers
Richard Whitaker and Sons at the Cock o' the North brewery in
The family, Lewis, his wife, Alice, and
the children, lived in a house at the corner with Wilfred Street,
right next to the brewery and next to a pub called the Smith's Arms –
"although that was nothing to do with us," smiled
Lewis Smith drove carts pulled by dray houses at
first, but later he moved on to lorries, which made the longer hauls,
while horses were retained for shorter trips. But one day in
1938 tragedy was to strike the Smith family again. Lewis Smith was
driving a Whitaker's wagon down Keighley Road towards town. As he
approached the infamous Talbot corner a car flew towards him on the
wrong side of the road. In the collision that followed Lewis
was thrown through the windscreen, receiving severe injuries. Ribs
were broken and one lung was punctured, which killed him. He died
three days later.
Joseph was only two when his twin brother
died, only 16 when he lost his father. He went on to have a long
career, 32 years, with sweetmaker John Mackintosh and Sons, initially
working in the various chewing gum departments and later in what was
called the "experimental department", working on new sweet
ideas, which were then tested out on the children at Siddal
"The sweets were passed round in the playground
and the children were asked what they thought. And children, being
children, were very honest about what they said. If they didn't like
them, they said so," said Joseph.
Joseph Smith married
and he and his wife, Olive, had two boys, Tony and Roger. Sadly Olive
died last year and Joseph lives at Canterbury Crescent, Halifax, at
the ripe old age of 85.
by David Hanson in 2008
He always seemed to
walk in the gutter, flat cap on one side. Every so often he would cup
his hand to his mouth and bellow out. If he was passing anyone they
would really jump.
03 April 2008
By Bill Clay
Reading in Nostalgia
about Halifax characters has prompted me to write about my childhood
in the Woolshops area of Halifax.
Yes, I remember Tommy
Cheese-bits very well. I can see him now, pushing his cart around. If
he saw a group of youngsters he would often turn around and walk
away, frightened of "getting a stone on th'heed", I heard
I was born on the Square in 1942 and characters were
everywhere. Does anyone remember "Sausage Mary"? She wore
clogs, was always immaculately clean and carrying trays of sausages,
to what purpose I know not.
The old lady with the barrel organ we
knew as "Grandma Pandozi". She lived in Blackhorse Yard,
off Woolshops. I remember once, with a friend, painting her barrel
organ dark green.
I would be interested to hear from anyone who
remembers the Square. An old lady called Miss England, a retired
school teacher who lived in a sort of shabby gentility, would have
tea in her garden with friends, with crisp white tablecloth and
silverware, the whole scene looking quite incongruous in the
Do you remember Blackledge, Woolshops, Skye Alley,
Hatters Fold, Winding Road, Gaol Lane, Ann Street, King Street, the
Old Crispin Inn, the school on Dispensary Walk, Duffy's Park, the
Moot Hall and the parish church precincts?
The whole area was
relatively poor yet The Square – originally Caygill's Square –
had some of the earliest brick-built houses in Halifax, probably of
the late 18th century, housing doctors, solicitors and and wealthy
One of the houses was connected to the early
printing of a Halifax newspaper; another housed a famous sculpture
and another was said to have entertained Branwell Bronte.
anyone remember the Piece Hall as a fruit and veg market? There were
two cafes, one of them known as "Mucky Bob's". Perhaps you
remember Nelson Street, with the fish and chip shop on one end, run
for many years by the Bentleys – Sarah, Florence and Albert.
the other end of the street was a grocer. I remember the scrubbed
flagged floors, bottles of dandelion and burdock, tins of loose
biscuits and penny sweet trays.
I went to the parish church
infant school on Dispensary Walk and migrated to the school on Church
Street around 1946. I recollect taking a tin to school to get free
cocoa powder and having a daily dose of cod liver oil and malt
I remember making sledges and playing in the snow with
chapped legs and freezing fingers, kicking gaslamps to make them
light, Highland toffee and going to Harry Bradbury's shop to fetch
accumulators for the wireless.
I remember my mother paying 6d
(2.5p) a week on club cheques to buy shoes and clothes from a shop in
Woolshops at Whitsuntide. Was the shop Standevens?
seemed to be bored; there was always something to do, playing
football in Duffy's Park, building bikes from scrap or making and
riding trolleys from four pram wheels and a board, going on picnics
to Beacon Hill with dripping bread and a bottle of Spanish water and
playing there all day.
Those days animals were driven up from the
goods yard on Church Street to the slaughterhouse on the Square,
quite sizeable herds of animals. When they reached the top of Square
Road they could smell the abattoir and would often scatter. They
would often be kept in the confines of the slaughterhouse and could
be heard at night crying and bleating.
We would follow the brewery
dray horses, magnificent animals, always well turned out. I was
fascinated by these, to a small boy, enormous, strong, gentle
For many years this was my world out of which I rarely
ventured – after all, I might be captured by the New Road Gang!
was a world that was oddly secure and sociable, rarely frightening.
There seemed always someone to turn to. Yes, we really did know all
our neighbours; there were a lot of people living in the area at that
time. Others must remember these things as I do.
lives at Abbey Walk South, Coronation Road, Halifax.
Another character who
has not been mentioned in Nostalgia was the Oven-den Grunt. He always
seemed to walk in the gutter, flat cap on one side. Every so often he
would cup his hand to his mouth and bellow out. If he was passing
anyone they would really jump.
Next a rather grubby man who
spent most days sitting on the little wall round Lloyds Bank, facing
Commercial Street. He had yards of dirty bandage round one foot. It
was rumoured he was a bobby's nark.
Another character was an
organ player with one leg and crutches. He lived by the old fire
station in Gibbet Street. His little organ hung round his neck and he
would make his way towards the Shay to collect a few coppers.
was no mean feat, all that way on two of the old-style wooden
crutches and then back home again.
When the name "Crossley" is mentioned in Halifax, we think of the family associated with the carpet industry but, there was another Crossley - Alfred, who was also a fascinating subject in the same era.
Ian Tattersall has investigated the life and times of this fascinating man and his amazing and unappreciated achievements.
Click the link https://digitallibrary.amnh.org/.../2246/7294/N3987.pdf...
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